Written by AI from scores of 40 calls against a MEDDPICC scorecard. Every quote was checked word for word against the transcripts. The number tables are computed in plain code. Reviewed and approved by Wayne Foreman.
Gap report
Budget and the economic buyer come up too late
What we found. On first calls, most reps don’t learn whether there’s budget or who signs. Budget comes up on 29% of first calls and the economic buyer on 38%. Why it matters. When the money facts come out late, deals slip to next year or end in a discount. What we’re sending the team. A five-minute lesson in our best reps’ own words, a role-play to practice it, and a coaching note for each manager.
On first calls, reps often put off budget and approval questions with a version of “we’ll get there.” Only 29% of first calls established budget and 38% established the economic buyer. The money facts then come out late, often from the CFO, and reps answer with discounts instead of a plan.
Why it matters. Every deal here needs a CFO, CTO or group sign-off, and several have no money set aside. When reps learn this late, deals slip or stall. In CALL-029 the CFO pushed the purchase to next fiscal year. In CALL-031 a trial ran before the rep learned the parent group buys all software. In CALL-035 the CFO had about $30K left and no next step was set. In CALL-039 budget was first raised days before the decision meeting. Both do come up on later calls (budget on 67% of second calls and the economic buyer on 80%), but by then reps have invested in demos and trials and have little room except price.
By call number: share of calls where each element was established
Element
Call 1 (21)
Call 2 (15)
Call 3+ (4)
Metrics
48%
93%
75%
Economic buyer
38%
80%
100%
Decision criteria
67%
67%
100%
Decision process
43%
53%
50%
Paper process
19%
27%
25%
Identify pain
90%
100%
75%
Champion
10%
60%
50%
Competition
57%
87%
50%
Budget
29%
67%
100%
Timeline
62%
60%
100%
By team, calls 1 and 2
Element
Central (12)
East (13)
West (11)
Budget
83%
31%
18%
Economic buyer
67%
54%
45%
Evidence
CALL-001, Marcus Bell: “Totally. Makes sense. We’ll get there.”
He accepted the buyer’s deferral on finance and procurement and never asked about the CFO or budget.
CALL-029, Marcus Bell: “Look, let me see what I can do on price. If I can get closer to 50, could we make it work this year?”
On call 3 the CFO revealed a 30% budget cut and only about $50K free. Marcus fell back on a deep discount, and the deal moved to next fiscal year.
CALL-011, Kevin Osei: “Totally, totally. No point talking price if it doesn’t work on your data. We’ll get there.”
The CTO, CEO and CFO all came up, but Kevin deferred price and never asked who signs.
CALL-035, Kevin Osei: “And I can get the price down. Maybe 35, if you sign this quarter?”
Two calls later, the CFO had only $30K left this year. Kevin answered with a discount, and the call ended with no next step.
CALL-017, Owen Brady: “Totally. Let’s see how the trial goes and we’ll figure it out.”
The buyer said there was no tools budget this year. Owen moved on without asking how the CFO could fund it.
CALL-020, Megan Riordan: “Totally. Let’s get Renee excited first.”
Megan dropped the finance and CFO thread on call 1 and never asked about budget or who signs.
CALL-039, Megan Riordan: “Which, I realize I’ve never asked you. How would that work? Is there budget, and who would approve it?”
Budget was first asked in the final minutes of call 2, days before the internal decision meeting. The buyer did not know of any budget.
CALL-031, Sam Whitfield: “I should have asked about the acquisition and how you buy things on day one.”
After a full trial, Sam learned that group procurement decides and his contact has no budget authority. The deal ended in a loose “next summer, maybe.”
What good sounds like
CALL-015, Maya Castillo: “Let me ask the money question early, so I’m respectful of your time. Is there budget for a cloud cost tool this year, or would it need to be part of next year’s plan?”
She asked about money early and politely. That surfaced the mid-October budget deadline and the CFO’s role, and by call 2 the CFO approved the budget line.
CALL-003, Imani Carter: “I’m not quoting you anything, I just don’t want the number to be a surprise later. Does that feel like it’s in the range of something that could fit?”
She tested a price range on call 1 and learned that the CFO signs. Call 2 put the CFO in a dated meeting with a Q4 funding path.
CALL-030, Ben Achebe: “So your placeholder is in the right range. I’d rather you know that now.”
He checked his price against the buyer’s budget placeholder on call 1. By call 2 the CFO was booked and named as the economic buyer.
CALL-004, Aisha Grant: “One point of gross margin on your revenue is probably several times our price. I’m not saying we’ll fix a point of margin. I’m saying the decision she’s making is worth a lot more than the tool.”
She tied price to the CFO’s own problem on call 1 instead of putting money off until later.
By team
West: Weakest on budget. Only 18% of calls 1 and 2 established budget, and 45% established the economic buyer. Even strong reps leave budget open: Aisha Grant and Sofia Marchetti didn’t establish budget on any of their calls. Owen Brady and Ryan Pham never got to the money.
East: Also weak: 31% budget and 54% economic buyer established on calls 1 and 2. East also has the lowest next-step rate (57% across all calls). Kevin Osei, Megan Riordan, Sam Whitfield, Paul Nguyen and Natalie Ward all reached late-stage conversations without knowing the money path. Imani Carter is the exception.
Central: Best at learning the money: 83% budget and 67% economic buyer established on calls 1 and 2. Central’s problem comes after that. Reps know the economic buyer but route around them or discount. Derek Lin pushed to bypass the CFO, Kayla Brooks put off bringing in the budget owner, and Nate Durham brushed off the approval process.
Reps most affected: Kevin Osei, Megan Riordan, Owen Brady, Marcus Bell, Sam Whitfield, Paul Nguyen, Natalie Ward, Ryan Pham
Secondary findings
Discounting instead of a value case, especially against Nimbalance. In at least nine calls reps offered a discount, often unprompted, and often right after hearing a competitor’s price. Nimbalance handling was weak in 8 of 11 calls, and 7 of those 8 were Central. In CALL-028 and CALL-014 the buyer asked for a value case, not a discount. Aisha Grant, Tom Kowalski and Imani Carter instead acknowledged where Nimbalance fits and let the buyer judge. (CALL-014, CALL-018, CALL-021, CALL-022, CALL-028, CALL-029, CALL-033, CALL-035, CALL-037)
Paper process is the lowest score and does not improve. Paper process is established in only 22% of calls, and the rate barely moves by stage (19%, then 27%, then 25%). Reps usually ask about security and stop there, so legal and procurement timing stays unknown. This puts close dates at risk, as in CALL-008 (a 4-6 week process against a mid-September target) and CALL-038 (December paperwork unconfirmed). Good examples are CALL-034 and CALL-036. (CALL-008, CALL-030, CALL-038, CALL-012, CALL-034, CALL-036)
Economic buyer named but kept out of the next step. Reps often learn who approves, then accept being kept away. The next step goes ahead without that person, or the rep offers an easy out. (CALL-013, CALL-015, CALL-019, CALL-024, CALL-028, CALL-039, CALL-040)
Late-stage calls ending without a dated next step. 12 of 40 calls ended with no dated meeting. That includes post-proposal calls where momentum matters most (CALL-033, CALL-035, CALL-037). East is lowest at 57%. (CALL-006, CALL-009, CALL-010, CALL-016, CALL-017, CALL-021, CALL-027, CALL-031, CALL-032, CALL-033, CALL-035, CALL-037)
What this can’t show
There is no win/loss data. “Costs deals” is inferred from stalled next steps, deals pushed to next fiscal year and late surprises, not from closed outcomes.
40 calls cover fewer deals, because several deals have 2-3 calls. Most reps have only 1-3 scored calls, so rep-level numbers are fragile.
A call counts as “budget established” even when the rep learned there is no budget (for example CALL-006 and CALL-033). Established doesn’t always mean a healthy deal.
Only 4 calls are at stage 3 or later, so late-stage patterns rest on very few examples.
Team comparisons rest on 11-14 calls each. A single deal can swing a team’s percentage.
Discounting isn’t on the scorecard. That finding comes from the AI’s notes and quotes on each call.
Only 10% of first calls established a champion. That is partly expected, since it’s hard to show someone is selling for you after one call.
40 calls scored. Scoring cost $2.96, report cost $0.47. Quotes that couldn’t be matched word for word: 0.